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Excellent first week...now some issues.

Postby scribes » Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:59 pm

I started with the Inferno Tankomizer kit. Worked perfect. Had an issue with what seemed to be a tank leaking into the tanko, which caused the tanko to dry burn i think. Wick got a horrible burnt taste to it. I cleaned it as per the recommended soak in hot water to a T, seemed better, but not great.

I ended up picking up two more replacement Tankos, and now, out of the three, i only have one working. One of the tanks seems to make any tank leak out entirely within a minute or two, which then cause a mild dry burn, cleaned again, gonna try tomorrow and see if its any better after this cleaning with a brand new blank tank.

I also picked up a tube tank 4ml due to hearing about how awesome these were supposed to be. I have three replacement carts for it, but i really havent even used the one it came with. I have been having some issues with it leaking, pull it out a touch and reseat it a few times seems to find a good spot, but the seal on these is so finicky im a little apprehensive about it. Also, i filled it as recommended, and ended up using a syringe bottle top to slowly drip on the stuff inside the carto until it wouldnt absorb anymore. I vaped on it for a few hours, started to get a burnt plasticy taste, inside of cart seemed to be getting dry, so i let it sit upright overnight.... it didnt change. Liquid levels are the same, still appears dry, and tastes dry. Pulled it out a bit and stuck a tiny staple through the feed hole, didnt really seem to be plugged, but i guess it could have been.

I have read everything i can find on the forums regarding both of these products, and am getting a little worried.

Any suggestions for either of my problems? Is there something else i should be or could be doing?

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Re: Excellent first week...now some issues.

Postby deleon517 » Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:08 pm

i wish i could help more with the tankos but we never got along, however with the tubetank are you dry hitting every so often? this is done by taking a few inhales with out actually firing the battery, some even find that taking it off the battery and coverin the bottom hole where it connects to the battery to work better. these are not gravity feed tanks, so leaving it sitting will not re-prime the filler of the carto. i know i know the actual process of vaping should draw liquid in but with two coils like the dcc that comes with the tubetank sometimes thats not enough and will need to be reprimed more often.

also what liquid are you using volcano or another brand? i ask because another brand may use higher then 20% vg, which can make the juice a little thicker then what volcano recommends (80%pg/20%vg) this too would cause it hard to keep the filler wet as it may not flow welll enough for the whole in the carto
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Re: Excellent first week...now some issues.

Postby scribes » Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:21 pm

I am/was dry hitting it.
I just tried taking off the battery and dry hitting it.
I am using the 16mg nic Menthol flavor from Volcano.

After making my initial post, i took it apart again, fiddle with it a bit, emptied the tank, used the same cart, refilled the tank, put carto back in. Juice level was at the very bottom of the N in TANK. i took a few dry hits, took a few regular hits, dry, regular a few times.

Its not just a tad into the A. So i think whatever was wrong is fixed. It must have not been getting into the cart, but appears to now. The flavor also DRASTICALLY changed, so apparently something went right.

Thanks for you insight.
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Re: Excellent first week...now some issues.

Postby deleon517 » Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:22 pm

no problem anytime
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Re: Excellent first week...now some issues.

Postby Artist Boy » Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:35 pm

I posted this elsewhere earlier today but it might help answer your issue and maybe add strength to my idea.

The tank is sealed so it does not leak right. so as the juice is pulled out of the tank and into the carto and the air pocket in the carto is increased.... is there a vacuum being formed in the tank that is then pulling juice back into the tank?

Take a dry pull on the TT with it on the battery... See the juice go down... stop pulling.. see the juice come back a little. the more I vape with out messing with it at all and the air pocket gets bigger , the more juice seems to flow back into the tank after doing some dry pulls.

I now once in a while pop the tank up a bit like I was gonna fill it (but don't) just to break any built up pressure in the tank.

But like I said before this could just be me over thinking things. But seems to help me . But... mind over matter?
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Re: Excellent first week...now some issues.

Postby scribes » Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:57 pm

Artist Boy wrote:I posted this elsewhere earlier today but it might help answer your issue and maybe add strength to my idea.

The tank is sealed so it does not leak right. so as the juice is pulled out of the tank and into the carto and the air pocket in the carto is increased.... is there a vacuum being formed in the tank that is then pulling juice back into the tank?

Take a dry pull on the TT with it on the battery... See the juice go down... stop pulling.. see the juice come back a little. the more I vape with out messing with it at all and the air pocket gets bigger , the more juice seems to flow back into the tank after doing some dry pulls.

I now once in a while pop the tank up a bit like I was gonna fill it (but don't) just to break any built up pressure in the tank.

But like I said before this could just be me over thinking things. But seems to help me . But... mind over matter?



Right before i read your post, i was doing some dry pulls, slow, heavy, fast, hard, different combos, and noticed on some heavier faster pulls i was draining noticable amounts of juice out of the tank. However, then my first 3-5 hits would gurgle like crazy, and if i didnt suck reasonably heavy on a powered pull, it would sound dead. With a heavier pull it would gargle but i would get a massive hit.

After reading your post, i just did a couple heavier drags and saw the liquid go down in the tank. Set it in front of me while i typed the first part of this, and already it seems to be back to, or at least close to where it was before i did the heavy pulls, so filling it back to where it was, back feeding the tank i guess.

Less gargle, still some, decent hit. So maybe the trick here is to take a couple big dry hits to soak the cart, then let it settle..??

Is that along the lines of what you were saying? Cause that seems to be happening to me. Maybe its just this cart?
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Re: Excellent first week...now some issues.

Postby scribes » Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:00 pm

Am i over thinking this now?

Argh.. maybe i missed so important info that tells me about this tank better.

I kept hitting it with the battery pointed at the ground because the feed hole is down there. Gurgle gurgle. I started hitting it a few times with it horizontal to the ground, like a regular cigarette, and the gurgling went away, and the flavor and hit got stronger......soaking into the stuffing i suppose when i lay it flat.
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Re: Excellent first week...now some issues.

Postby deleon517 » Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:06 pm

scribes wrote:Am i over thinking this now?

Argh.. maybe i missed so important info that tells me about this tank better.

I kept hitting it with the battery pointed at the ground because the feed hole is down there. Gurgle gurgle. I started hitting it a few times with it horizontal to the ground, like a regular cigarette, and the gurgling went away, and the flavor and hit got stronger......soaking into the stuffing i suppose when i lay it flat.


your still new over thinking is natural just use what works best for you. i've seen people over think as much as to the way they hold the battery and which finger pushes the button. whats really important is finding your niche and using that
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Re: Excellent first week...now some issues.

Postby robberry » Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:52 pm

I've never liked tanks on the Magma (leaks, problems pulling, etc.), so I can't help you there.

I've been puffing on my new TT all day, and there has not been a single leak. Where is it leaking from? If it tastes burnt, you have to add more juice to the carto (and then take some dry pulls).
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Re: Excellent first week...now some issues.

Postby scribes » Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:26 pm

robberry wrote:I've never liked tanks on the Magma (leaks, problems pulling, etc.), so I can't help you there.

I've been puffing on my new TT all day, and there has not been a single leak. Where is it leaking from? If it tastes burnt, you have to add more juice to the carto (and then take some dry pulls).



I think i got the Tube Tank down now, good hits, seems kind of finicky on the feed, but i have been watching it and trying different things, all in all coming together on that. It seemed to be leaking from the bottom, where the bottom of the cart sits over or under/outside the bottom rubber seal on the tube itself. Its not solid enough to slide in my pocket thats for sure, which really makes this hard to use as an everyday/at work/on the go system.


The Tankomizers im just having really horrible luck with. I have three of them, all three seem to have gotten burnt in some manner...im guessing dry wick. I have only been running volcano juice through them, so i dont think its the consistancy of the juice thats causing an issue.

The first week i didnt have any problems what so ever with the tankos......but late last week i got some red and clear blank tanks in and had been using those to color code to some degree the juices and mine vs the wifes. Just by looking at them, i can see that they are different. The clear tanks with black lip piece have a little half black circle that comes down over the tank alittle...i know its a subtle difference, but after trying almost everything i could think of, i started to notice both the red and clear tanks had draw problems, like blocked or far less air movement than the original black tipped clear tanks that came with the kit. Seeing as how my problems with burnt wicks happened after i started using those, it only makes sense they could be causing an issue. Less air flow would mean my drags arent re-feeding the wick with juice, and it wouldnt take long before i burn the wick.

Can this be confirmed or denied? That the tanks are different? I fairly confident this is contributing to, if not solely my problem.

I think maybe i should make another thread on this tank difference alone, just to make sure someone sees this. I dont know if its worth creating a ticket, and i dont want to be a "problem" child, but its really frustrating me.
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